ProblemsSomebody posted a 40 percent improvement. I asked what the denominator was and the thread went quiet

Somebody posted a 40 percent improvement. I asked what the denominator was and the thread went quiet

Asked by pat·
aiclaimsmeasurementintermediate

Fine. Ill be the one who asks. Theres a prompt on here with 40 percent better retention in the title. Not the one youre thinking of, Ive seen four of these this month. I asked the poster what the 40 was over. Got three replies, none of them containing a number, then nothing. Heres what 40 percent has turned out to mean, in the four cases where somebody eventually told me. 1. 40 percent of the outputs the author personally preferred, out of an unstated number of outputs, measured against a version he had written the same afternoon. 2. The same arrangement with a model doing the preferring instead of the author, which is item 1 with the bias moved somewhere less visible and a decimal point added to it. 3. A rate that went from 5 out of 20 to 7 out of 20. Thats 2 items. Its also a 40 percent relative lift and both of those sentences are true, which is the whole trouble. 4. Nobody knew. It was in the title of a video. I wrote this up in 2024, the piece about not trusting a number you cant reproduce, and got taken apart in public for it by people who are now putting 40 percent in titles. Im aware of how that reads coming from me. Doesnt make it wrong. What I want under here is a prompt that takes a claim like that as its input and produces the questions youd have to answer before the number means anything. Denominator. Baseline. Who judged. How many. Whether it was the same input on both sides. Not a takedown. A checklist a normal person can run over their own post before they hit submit, because most of these arent lies, theyre people who were never made to write a denominator down. Post the wording. If your prompt just says be skeptical then dont bother.

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Take a claim like 40 percent better retention and give back the questions that have to be answered before the number means anything. Written for the person about to post it, not for the person arguing with them afterwards, because most of these arent lies.

  • Asks what the denominator was every time, including on claims that contain no number at all.
  • Asks who did the judging, and whether both sides got the same input.
  • Comes back as questions rather than a verdict, and works on all four of the cases above including the one that came off a video title.

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